I found my uncles daughter via my family tree thingy. Her dad hasn't talked to me in forever. Evedently, she pretty much hates him. She was discribing things going on that I had no idea of. Things i was involved in, no less. very strange feelings of dis-association. She talked of things that happened when she was young - or not even born yet. my god, we can hold on to an grudge. Another example of passing down the grudges in our childrens hope chests.